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		<title>Pho Nam Dinh: Pho Hanoi by the Multigenerational Co Family from Town of Nam Dinh, Part 2</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is part 2 of the story of pho Hanoi and how the Co family pho dynasty keeps its pho through 5 generations. We meet one of the two remaining members of the second generation, who demonstrates traditional pho techniques at festivals and visits his descendants' pho shops to pass on his experience and encouragement.<p><a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/pho-vietnam/pho-ha-noi/pho-hanoi-multigenerational-co-family-from-nam-dinh-part-2/">Pho Nam Dinh: Pho Hanoi by the Multigenerational Co Family from Town of Nam Dinh, Part 2</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.lovingpho.com">Vietnamese Pho Noodles</a></p>
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<p>Here&#8217;s the second part of the YouTube video telling an important story about a great pho family in Vietnam. First the video itself, followed by my loose transcription. Time stamps in brackets [ ] match video timecodes for easy reference. You can view part 1: &#8220;<a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/pho-vietnam/pho-ha-noi/pho-hanoi-multigenerational-co-family-from-nam-dinh-part-1/"title="Pho Dynasty: Pho Hanoi by the Multigenerational Co Family from Town of Nam Dinh, Part 1" >Pho Dynasty: Pho Hanoi by the Multigenerational Co Family from Town of Nam Dinh, Part 1</a>.&#8221;</p>
<h2>Video: Phở by the Multigenerational Cồ Family (currently 3rd, 4th and 5th generation,) from Town of Nam Định, Near Hà Nội (part 2.) Narrated in Vietnamese.</h2>
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<h2>The Co Family Patriarch Guides Pho Hanoi to Its Future</h2>
<p>Mr. Rao has been passionate about pho all his life, and will probably continue to be for a long time. In his hand is a book about the foods of Hanoi, written by the famous French culinary expert Didier Corlou. In it of course one can&#8217;t miss his [Chef Corlou's]  praise about pho by the family Co in Hanoi.</p>
<p>[0:30] Mr. Rao: &#8220;The vast majority of people, when talking about pho in Hanoi, know about the phở gánh or pho carts. [Editor's note: gánh in Vietnamese means bearing on shoulder with a bamboo stick with products hung at each end. It's a way for many people to make a living selling various foods, snacks and products.] It was the Co family and their people taking their pho from Nam Dinh to Hanoi, and according to current family members, Mr. Co [audio indistinct]. He was the first to open shops here, then followed suit by other people from the same village Van Cu. Around the 1980-1985 time frame, the Van Cu people started to scatter to Ha long, down to Da Nang. Even Saigon now has Van Cu people.&#8221;</p>
<p>[1:19] Of the 4 brothers from the second generation of family Co, all pho experts, two have passed away. The remaining brothers include Mr. Phở Hùng, his real name is Cồ Như Hùng, and the second brother, Co Nhu Thu[?], who has just reached 80 years in age.</p>
<p>For many years now, Mr. Pho Hung no longer looks after the business. Rather his main work now is to pass on his experience to sons and daughters. For many years Hanioans have not seen Mr. Pho Hung. Today they have a chance to witness his demonstration on the art of making pho during the showcase of Vietnamese culinary arts organized by UNESCO in December 2003.</p>
<p>Standing next to him is the first grandson of Nhu Quang[?] who is fluent in making family Co pho.</p>
<p>[2:19] Despite getting older, Mr. Pho Hung remains strong and confident as he demonstrates his slicing techniques of a true professional with his quick, flexible hands and fingers. Today he is also the President of the professional association for pho countrymen from Van Cu, Nam Truc, Nam Dinh, which represents almost a hundred family members who are making a living serving pho in and around Hanoi.</p>
<p>[2:47] These two pho carts on demonstration have been rebuilt by UNESCO for the event. They are representative of those used by the Co ancestors in early 20th century. They were reconstructed based on Mr. Pho Hung&#8217;s own memory of the years when he followed his father seling pho on the old streets of Hanoi. The pepper shaker itself was made from dry bamboo tubes; the fragrant northern pepper, together with the aromatic flavors of cinnamon, star anise, fresh ginger and charred onions have probably accompanied him all his life.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/pho-co-2.jpg" rel="shadowbox[post-1009];player=img;"class="highslide" onclick="return vz.expand(this)" ><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1010" style="margin: 10px; border: 1px solid black;" title="Co Family Pho, pho cart" src="http://www.lovingpho.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/pho-co-2.jpg" alt="Co Family Pho, pho cart" width="256" height="192" /></a>[3:22] Despite the months and years of laborious and hard work, Mr. Pho Hung and his family takes great pride as the those responsible in bringing this rare gift to the land of Hanoi, then help in making pho famous across the country and now the world.</p>
<p>This is Pho Hanoi. And the soul of pho Hanoi is still the pho broth vat with its unique, special aroma and taste.</p>
<p>[3:48] Mr. Pho Hung on stage [audio indistinct]</p>
<p>[4:08] Mr. Pho Hung: &#8220;&#8230; first off the [bones, meat?] must be fatty and rich. Once the water begins to boil, they must be pulled, then continue to keep the broth simmer without boiling over. This is how the broth can be kept clear always. This particular broth being served today has no well-done meat cooked in it. Together with the proper seasonings, the foundation of the stock must include the best quality ingredients. After that we&#8217;d add in charred ginger and onions, then nuoc mam (fish sauce), and that&#8217;s how we served it.&#8221;</p>
<p>[4:59] Mr. Pho Hung [audio indistinct]</p>
<p>[5:11] Dr. Tran Manh Dat, of the Hanoi University of Education, is a long time citizen who grew up and studied in Hanoi. He has also traveled to foreign countries for education and business. Today, like many others, he by chance happens to attend this cultural event demonstrating the traditional Hanoi pho, and met up with Mr. Co Nhu Hung.</p>
<p>Dr. Dat: &#8220;In Paris or Amsterdam or [audio indistinct] or most anywhere else, I&#8217;ve always run into pho shops. The pho itself always makes me feel homesick. Today being at this festival, I&#8217;m very moved, at the same time feeling proud that our country has a rich culinary culture that is vey rich. Many of my friends from abroad tell me they can never forget Vietnam, because of this pho dish. It is the pho that attract them back to this country.&#8221;</p>
<p>[6:28] Now in his retirement, Mr. Pho Hung rarely go visit many places, even to pho shops run by descendants of family Co, and by his countrymen from the same village Van Cu. There are at least a few hundreds of them. Though he does make exception for family members, like this Pho Hang Dong. He always wishes them continued success, in any era or generation.</p>
<p>[7:01] [audio indistinct]</p>
<p>[7:14] Everyone, whether in the family or from the village, or even the customers, wishes Mr. Pho Hung good health and long life, hoping that he will continue as a strong guide for their pho Hanoi, as well as keeping pho famous across the five continents.</p>
<p>[7:35] On a beautiful day in the near future, during the celebration of 1,000 years establishment of Thang Long-Ha Noi [Editor's note: October 2010 will officially mark 1,000 years of the establishment of the city of Hanoi] we hope to be able to view Mr. Pho Hung in action again, right next to his traditional pho cart of Hanoi, with its deductive fragrance.</p>
<p>To read more about events and people related to this video&#8217;s production, check out these articles:</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/pho-opinion-editorial/interview-with-chef-didier-corlou-on-vietnamese-pho-and-vietnamese-cuisine/"title="An Interview with Chef Didier Corlou on Vietnamese Pho and Cuisine" >An Interview with Chef Didier Corlou on Vietnamese Pho and Cuisine</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/pho-chefs-recipes/chef-didier-corlou-passion-pho-vietnamese-cuisine/"title="Chef Didier Corlou, A Passion for Pho and Vietnamese Cuisine" >Chef Didier Corlou, A Passion for Pho and Vietnamese Cuisine</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.vietworldkitchen.com/blog/2008/10/pho-by-chef-didier-corlou.html" rel="nofollow" title="Pho by Chef Didier Corlou"  target="_blank">Pho by Chef Didier Corlou</a></li>
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<p><a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/pho-vietnam/pho-ha-noi/pho-hanoi-multigenerational-co-family-from-nam-dinh-part-2/">Pho Nam Dinh: Pho Hanoi by the Multigenerational Co Family from Town of Nam Dinh, Part 2</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.lovingpho.com">Vietnamese Pho Noodles</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pho Hanoi by the multigenerational Co family from the town of Nam Dinh. This video tells the story of pho Hanoi and how the Co dynasty keeps its pho through 5 generations. The video is narrated in Vietnamese, but I think non-Viet speaking pho lovers will find it fascinating too. Here's a loose transcription I made to share with everyone. Some specific audio details may be lost, but the overall meanings are still intact. Enjoy.<p><a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/pho-vietnam/pho-ha-noi/pho-hanoi-multigenerational-co-family-from-nam-dinh-part-1/">Pho Nam Dinh: Pho Hanoi by the Multigenerational Co Family from Town of Nam Dinh, Part 1</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.lovingpho.com">Vietnamese Pho Noodles</a></p>
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<p><em><span style="color: #800000;">Updated 10-31-09</span></em>. Here&#8217;s a unique YouTube video telling an important story about a great pho family in Vietnam. It made my list of top phở videos (<a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/pho-opinion-editorial/great-vietnamese-pho-youtube-videos-worth-seeing/"title="Great Vietnamese Pho YouTube Videos Worth Seeing" >Great Vietnamese Pho YouTube Videos Worth Seeing</a>.) It&#8217;s narrated in Vietnamese, so not surprisingly it has a very limited audience. I think non-Viet speaking pho lovers will find it fascinating just like I did. For this reason, even though the audio is quite degraded, I was able to make a loose transcription of the video to share with everyone. Some specific audio details may be lost, but I believe the overall meanings are still intact.</p>
<p>The whole program is more than 16 minutes but hamivovn, the YouTube uploader of this video, had to break it into two 8-minute parts, because YouTube only allows 10 minutes maximum per video upload. So here&#8217;s part one, beginning with the video itself, followed by my loose transcript. Time stamps in brackets [ ] match video timecodes for easy reference.</p>
<h2>Video: Phở by the Multigenerational Cồ Family (currently 3rd, 4th and 5th generation,) from Town of Nam Định, Near Hà Nội (part 1.) Narrated in Vietnamese.</h2>
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<h2>The Co Family and Pho Hanoi</h2>
<p>Early morning in the old copper antique row Hàng Đồng, the small shop at the crossroad of Hang Tai and Hang Dong seems completely hidden among the constant noisy of the surrounding commerce activites.</p>
<p>The large block of well-done beef steak for many years has come to symbolize the inviting sign that welcomes customers to the many Hanoi pho shops.</p>
<p>The large vat with soup stock as clear as rain water just comes to its boiling point.</p>
<p>Every morning, as the air is still full of morning dew, the shop owner and his wife together with their children begin their daily chores as owners of a pho shop. This is hard work.</p>
<p>This is the family business that has passed down to them through 3-4 generations.</p>
<p>The smokes and steams from boiling vats are the signs that easily identify these family-owned shops as the famous pho shops of Hanoi. The fragrance of the familiar pho and its tasty beef always seem to bond themselves to their server&#8217;s presence, in their hair and in their clothes.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/nam-dinh-province.jpg" rel="shadowbox[post-1004];player=img;"class="highslide" onclick="return vz.expand(this)" ><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1007" style="margin: 10px; border: 1px solid black;" title="Nam Dinh Province - click to enlarge" src="http://www.lovingpho.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/nam-dinh-province.jpg" alt="Nam Dinh Province - click to enlarge" width="256" height="192" /></a>Known as the multigenerational pho of Nam Dinh, there&#8217;s only one kind of pho: beef pho or phở bò.</p>
<p>[1;32] The family Cồ started from the village Vân Cù, district of Nam Trực in the town of Nam Định. This man&#8217;s father, Mr. Phở Chiêu, or elder Cồ Như Chiêu, opened this pho shop, called Hàng Phở Đồng (or Pho Hang Dong,) among the copper antique row since the middle of the 20th century, and handed it down for him and his wife to take over the business to this day. Mr. Phở Chiêu himself was in fact the first-born son of grandfather Phở Cồ, who brought his pho from Nam Dinh to make a living in Hanoi back at the beginning of the 20th century.</p>
<p>Like any other well-known pho shops in Hanoi, Hàng Phở Đồng not only has many regular customers, but always attracts many more new customers all the time.</p>
<p>[2:15] Like this guest. Every morning he walks 5-7 km to come to Pho Hang Dong in order to enjoy a bowl of authentic Phở Chiêu, as the pho is still called.</p>
<p>Guest Mr. Nguyen Huu Tho says: &#8220;The pho here is very good, fragrant, the noodle is so soft. I like it so much [undecipherable audio].&#8221;</p>
<p>Sitting at the same table is a visitor [undecipherable] of Phở Chiêu. Guest Mr. Duong Dinh Thien says: &#8220;I came here to eat ever since the day when it was still called Phở Chiêu, who was the father of the current owner. Now I still come quite often. The pho here has a special characteristic that is just the perfect taste for us.&#8221;</p>
<p>Like many third-generation decendents of the family Co from Nam Dinh now in Hanoi, the shop owner Mr. Việt and his wife are very popular among many customers, owing to the experience and discipline passed down from his father before him.</p>
<p>[3:30] Mr. Cồ Như Việt says: &#8220;Since I was small, I have followed them [his parents] everywhere to work this business. Now in my 50&#8242;s, you can say that I know the business inside out, of course because of what they have taught us and left for us. My brothers, all running famous pho shops around Hanoi, have also followed the family business. Both our father&#8217;s and mother&#8217;s sides have been successful and dependent on this profession. All the other well-known pho shops from Nam Dinh in the old days have also made their ways here [to Hanoi] to work and help their family business to prosper.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mr. Việt: &#8221;The way to maintain the delicious taste, first off, one must possess a real passion for the profession. You cannot use tricks, you cannot be deceitful, or use other schemes, in order to achieve a delicious bowl of pho, with delicious broth, and fragrant meats.&#8221;</p>
<p>[4:27] So then as it turns out, almost all the pho Nam Dinh in Hanoi have come from the same family of the village Van Cu, district Nam Trực in the town of Nam Dinh.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/pho-co-1.jpg" rel="shadowbox[post-1004];player=img;"class="highslide" onclick="return vz.expand(this)" ><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1005" style="margin: 10px; border: 1px solid black;" title="Co Family Pho" src="http://www.lovingpho.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/pho-co-1.jpg" alt="Co Family Pho" width="256" height="192" /></a>It has been known among Hanoians that in Hanoi there are 2 famous pho shops. They are the family Canh Diễn from the province Hà Tây, represented by the pho shop Pho Thìn by Hoan Kiem Lake, and the pho shop Tư Lùn in the Hai Ba Trung district. Today descendants of the Canh Dien family from Ha Tay, and many other pho chefs trained by both families, also operated dozens of pho shops around the streets of Hanoi. Not surprisingly, the 2 original pho shops on Dinh Tien Hoang and Hai Ba Trung streets still maintain business operation regularly.</p>
<p>By the 1990&#8242;s into 2000&#8242;s, the pho family from Nam Dinh has surpassed pho from Ha Tay in operation and popularity. The children of the family Co&#8217;s third-, fourth- and fifth-generation, and their families, have, are and will gain the majority of the pho market.</p>
<p>[5:41] This is the pho shop Cồ Cử on Van Hieu Street as it appeared in the mid 1990&#8242;s. The owner, Cồ Hữu Cử, though having the same surname, is actually of the same descent but by a different lineage from the descendants of Mr. Pho Hung [?]</p>
<p>Also from Nam Dinh, he had been in the profession for many years in Hanoi under the name Pho Co Cu, and his shop has also become quite famous. For Co Cu, finding a stable location to operate his pho business has not been easy, and at times the challenges seem insurmountable. But he is not one who is easily discouraged, like the old saying: &#8220;lửa thử vàng, gian nan thử sức,&#8221; a phrase that loosely means &#8220;when the going gets tough, the tough gets going.&#8221;</p>
<p>[6:29] Recently Co Cu has taken his pho shop to a new location on Nguyen Chi Khanh Street, and has been doing well. It&#8217;s only 9 AM, yet many of his vats have already emptied. His broth is so well brewed that, although down to the last few ladles, the liquid itself is still clear and full of fragrance and flavors, its quality just like the full vats of Pho Hang Dong in early morning.</p>
<p>Another unique characteristic of the family Co pho lies in the wide and long strands the pho noodle, or banh pho.</p>
<p>[7:01] Mr. Co Cu: &#8220;The banh pho itself has been passed down from the ancestors, and truthfully, today in Hanoi one can probably count only a few banh pho makers that make the family-style noodles like ours. These banh pho have been cut by hand, they&#8217;re always large in size, and they go together very well with the pho broth.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;To tell the truth, our shop here may be at a disadvantage when it comes to economics, but really we do have our reputation.&#8221;</p>
<p>[7:46] It&#8217;s not until the afternoon when customers have thinned out a bit that Mr. Co Cu then has a few relaxing minutes to greet and chat with his special guests. Visiting today are Mr. Phở Hùng, an uncle of Mr. Co Cu, and Nguyen Dinh Rao, a specialist in Vietnamese cuisine studies and President of Unesco Club of Gastronomy.</p>
<p>You can view part 2: &#8221;<a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/pho-vietnam/pho-ha-noi/pho-hanoi-multigenerational-co-family-from-nam-dinh-part-2/"title="Pho Dynasty: Pho Hanoi by the Multigenerational Co Family from Town of Nam Dinh, Part 2" >Pho Dynasty: Pho Hanoi by the Multigenerational Co Family from Town of Nam Dinh, Part 2</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p>To read more about events and people related to this video&#8217;s production, check out these articles:</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/pho-opinion-editorial/interview-with-chef-didier-corlou-on-vietnamese-pho-and-vietnamese-cuisine/"title="An Interview with Chef Didier Corlou on Vietnamese Pho and Cuisine" >An Interview with Chef Didier Corlou on Vietnamese Pho and Cuisine</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/pho-chefs-recipes/chef-didier-corlou-passion-pho-vietnamese-cuisine/"title="Chef Didier Corlou, A Passion for Pho and Vietnamese Cuisine" >Chef Didier Corlou, A Passion for Pho and Vietnamese Cuisine</a></li>
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		<title>Great Vietnamese Pho YouTube Videos Worth Seeing</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Among the 3,000 or so YouTube pho videos there are many how-to-cook, how-to-eat and a variety of parody clips. After viewing a few, you'll wonder why you've wasted a good chunk of your life on them, time that you'll never get back. On the other hand, there are a few gems that will enhance your knowledge and appreciation of pho in many ways. Here are some of the best pho-related YouTube videos worth seeing.<p><a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/pho-opinion-editorial/great-vietnamese-pho-youtube-videos-worth-seeing/">Great Vietnamese Pho YouTube Videos Worth Seeing</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.lovingpho.com">Vietnamese Pho Noodles</a></p>
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<p><a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/pho-youtube.jpg" rel="shadowbox[post-980];player=img;"class="highslide" onclick="return vz.expand(this)" ><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-982" style="margin: 10px; border: 1px solid black;" title="Pho on youtube" src="http://www.lovingpho.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/pho-youtube.jpg" alt="Pho on youtube" width="280" height="210" /></a><em><span style="color: #800000;">Updated 10-27-09</span></em>. There are gazillions of pho videos on YouTube. Among the 3,000 or so <a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/tag/pho/" title='Vietnamese pho'>Vietnamese pho</a> videos there are many how-to-cook, how-to-eat and a variety of other parody clips. After viewing a few of those, you&#8217;ll wonder why you&#8217;ve wasted a good chunk of your life on them, time that you&#8217;ll never get back in any shape or form.</p>
<p>On the other hand, there are a few gems that will enhance your knowledge and appreciation of pho in many ways, and you&#8217;ll be glad you&#8217;ve seen them. Below are some of the best pho-related YouTube videos worth seeing.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re not your run of the mill personal funny videos. They are quite entertaining and educational, and they definitely ooze personal styles and characteristics that make them unique. Above all they show a lot of care and thoughts put in both during the production and post-production. In addition, they also get the nod for treating pho with respect (though I&#8217;m still on the fence about the gigantic bowl of Pho Challenge at Pho Garden.) The magic of pho is really all about the broth, so anything showing large vats of brewing pho broth with huge ladles and crew buzzing to serve pho to hungry customers all get special consideration.</p>
<p>Here are my youTube video picks in no particular order. The 2 Vietnamese-language videos are especially great documentaries. Maybe I&#8217;ll find time to translate them sometime.</p>
<h2>Mobile Home Pho -- Pho Bình in Houston</h2>
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<h2>Phở gia truyền dòng họ Cồ (Nam Định) tại Hà Nội (P1 of 2)</h2>
<p><strong> Phở by the Multigenerational Cồ Family (currently 3rd, 4th and 5th generation,) from Town of Nam Định, Near Hà Nội (part 1.) In Vietnamese only.</strong></p>
<p><strong></strong>English transcription available at &#8220;<a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/pho-vietnam/pho-ha-noi/pho-hanoi-multigenerational-co-family-from-nam-dinh-part-1/"title="Pho Dynasty: Pho Hanoi by the Multigenerational Co Family from Town of Nam Dinh, Part 1" >Pho Dynasty: Pho Hanoi by the Multigenerational Co Family from Town of Nam Dinh, Part 1</a>.&#8221;<br />
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<h2>Phở gia truyền dòng họ Cồ (Nam Định) tại Hà Nội (P2 of 2)</h2>
<p><strong>Phở by the Multigenerational Cồ Family (currently 3rd, 4th and 5th generation,) from Town of Nam Định, Near Hà Nội (part 2.) In Vietnamese only.<br />
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<h2>How to cook pho: long recipe howcookingworks.com</h2>
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<h2>Vietnamese Pho Bo, Pho Ga and Bun Bo Hue at St Barbara Parish Fall Festival</h2>
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<h2>Pho Challenge</h2>
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<h2>Anthony Bourdain Pho -- Food Porn</h2>
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		<title>An Interview with Chef Didier Corlou on Vietnamese Pho and Cuisine</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chef Didier Corlou is one of the culinary authorities on Vietnamese pho and cuisine. He's been in Vietnam since 1991 playing a vital role in developing and promoting Vietnamese cuisine to a new level. Here's an in-depth interview with "Le Chef" Corlou on various aspects of Viet pho, from his own thoughts on how to cook pho, to pho franchise, to even pairing wine with pho!<p><a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/pho-opinion-editorial/interview-with-chef-didier-corlou-on-vietnamese-pho-and-vietnamese-cuisine/">An Interview with Chef Didier Corlou on Vietnamese Pho and Cuisine</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.lovingpho.com">Vietnamese Pho Noodles</a></p>
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<p><a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/chef-didier-corlou-in-action.jpg" rel="shadowbox[post-831];player=img;"class="highslide" onclick="return vz.expand(this)" ><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-833" style="margin: 10px; border: 1px solid black;" title="Chef Didier Corlou in action" src="http://www.lovingpho.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/chef-didier-corlou-in-action.jpg" alt="Chef Didier Corlou in action" width="256" height="192" /></a>I wrote about Chef Didier Corlou before (see article &#8220;<a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/vietnam-travel/chef-didier-corlou-passion-pho-vietnamese-cuisine/"title="Chef Didier Corlou, A Passion for Pho and Vietnamese Cuisine" >Chef Didier Corlou, A Passion for Pho and Vietnamese Cuisine</a>&#8220;.) because I very much admire his tremendous knowledge and passion for Vietnamese foods, and for pho in particular. Recently I had a chance to interview the &#8220;Maitre de cuisinier de France&#8221; himself over email. Chef Corlou is a very busy man so I&#8217;m honored to have him spend some time to share his views on Vietnamese and French cuisine, his view on the state of pho, and his new culinary ventures.</p>
<p>First a little bit more about Chef Corlou. In a sentence, Chef Corlou&#8217;s resume could be summarized as noted on his homepage of <a href="http://www.didiercorlou.com/" rel="nofollow" title="didiercorlou.com"  target="_blank">didiercorlou.com</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>After over 30 years of experience worldwide – in Africa, Asia, Europe and America – and 14 years as Chef of Sofitel Metropole Hanoi, I now offer you a variety of buffet, diner and cocktail menus, with exotic-themed or European, traditional or contemporary dishes.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/didier-corlou-verticale.jpg" rel="shadowbox[post-831];player=img;"class="highslide" onclick="return vz.expand(this)" ><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-840" style="margin: 10px;" title="Didier Corlou La Verticale" src="http://www.lovingpho.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/didier-corlou-verticale.jpg" alt="Didier Corlou La Verticale" width="127" height="168" /></a>&#8220;Le Chef&#8221; Corlou is a member of the Culinary Academy France and is a 5 Stars Diamond Award Chef. With extensive traveling, cultural and culinary experience from around the world, Le Chef is now working out of Vietnam, running his new <a href="http://www.verticale-hanoi.com" rel="nofollow" title="Verticale restaurant in Hanoi"  target="_blank">Verticale restaurant in Hanoi</a>, opening up <a href="http://www.onthe6.com.vn/" rel="nofollow" title="On the 6 in Saigon"  target="_blank">On the 6 in Saigon</a>, while managing a training center and catering business.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a Didier Corlou bio.</p>
<ul>
<li>1956. Born in Henebont, France.</li>
<li>1976. Africa, the Big Start: discovering of Ivory Coast and its lagoon from Abidjan.</li>
<li>1977. Entering to the <a href="http://www.accor.com" rel="nofollow" title="ACCOR group"  target="_blank">ACCOR group</a>: Caribbean, Bora Bora, the Comoros. With the regions and countries, it’s the meeting with the green papaya, giant mussels, wild pig, ginger and vanilla&#8230;</li>
<li>1991. Arriving in Vietnam&#8230;</li>
<li>1992. The cuisine simmers with Sultans in Malaysia, Fidel Castro or President Clinton, crowning of Prince Sihanouk; Chef at Sofitel Metropole where he managed a French and Vietnamese restaurants&#8230;</li>
<li>2003. Winning <a href="http://www.former.cookbookfair.com/html/vietnam.html" rel="nofollow" title="Gourmand World Cookbook"  target="_blank">Gourmand World Cookbook</a> for “Didier Corlou’s Vietnamese Cuisine” and publishing “Cooking with Chef Didier”&#8230;</li>
<li>2005. Opening of L’Escale restaurant in Siem Reap, Cambodia&#8230;</li>
<li>2006. Consultant, advisor in gastronomy for Sofitel Metropole and for many projects in Asia; Prepared dishes for President Bush at the APEC Summit&#8230;</li>
<li>2007. Guest Chef at Le Notre School, France; Opening of “La Verticale” restaurant in Hanoi, Vietnam &#8211; ranked top 100 world best new restaurants by Conde Nast magazine in 2008; Opening of Corlou Catering, Pastry, Cuisine in Hanoi, Vietnam&#8230;</li>
<li>2008. Guest Chef at “World Gourmet Summit 2008” in Singapore; Guest Chef at “Hotel New Otani Osaka”, Japan; Guest Chef at Le Notre School, France for the new fusion cuisine; Publishing “A la verticale des epices” and “Five seasons &#8211; a Vietnamese collection of Gastronomic Journey”&#8230;</li>
<li>2009. Guest Chef at Diner de gala Escoffier, Shanghai, China; Guest Chef at TRU Vietnamese and Thai, Hongkong; Guest Chef at Ikarus in Hangar-7, Austria.</li>
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<p><a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Chef-Corlou-cooking-class-3.jpg" rel="shadowbox[post-831];player=img;"class="highslide" onclick="return vz.expand(this)" ><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-835" style="margin: 10px; border: 1px solid black;" title="Chef Didier Corlou Cooking Class" src="http://www.lovingpho.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Chef-Corlou-cooking-class-3.jpg" alt="Chef Didier Corlou Cooking Class" width="210" height="280" /></a>Chef Corlou has recently received the “<a href="http://www.stardiamondaward.com/index.php?page=recipients&amp;col=1&amp;cat=1&amp;geo=3" rel="nofollow" title="“Star Diamond Award” from the American Academy of Hospitality Sciences"  target="_blank">Star Diamond Award</a>” from the American Academy of Hospitality Sciences.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s get on to the interview. I use text in brackets [...] to clarify the message as needed.</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #800000;">Lovingpho (LP)</span></span></span>: Do you consider yourself a French chef specializing in Viet cuisine, a Viet chef specializing in French cuisine, or maybe somewhere in between, or competely outside of the range of these descriptions?<br />
<span style="color: #003300;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #800000;">Didier Corlou (DC)</span></span></span></span><span style="color: #800000;">: I am a French chef who [is] fascinate[d] in the gastronomy of all the world, and has an advantage in Vietnamese cuisine.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">LP</span></span>: What were the factors that drew you to Vietnam in general, and Viet cuisine in particular?<br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #800000;">DC</span></span></span><span style="color: #800000;">: The first reason is to discover, of course, the Vietnamese cuisine. However one more important thing is the habitants. All these factors make me stay with this beautiful country.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">LP</span></span>: What were some of the most important factors/ideas/concepts during your training that you deem important/critical for your knowledge and success today?<br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #800000;">DC</span></span></span><span style="color: #800000;">: I don’t consider myself a successful chef. However, in my oppinion, the most important factors lie on the way you present your work with a strong will and the desire for learning new things.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">LP</span></span>: If you can share some of your proudest achievements at the Sofitel Metropole Hotel, what would they be?<br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #800000;">DC</span></span></span><span style="color: #800000;">: During more than ten years working at Metropole, I am glad that I’ve built up the standard of Vietnamese cuisine.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">LP</span></span>: What would you select as some of the most important Viet dish(es)? And why? And what are some of your favorite Viet dish(es) you like to enjoy yourself? And why?<br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #800000;">DC</span></span></span><span style="color: #800000;">: For me, Pho is the most important and also my favorite Vietnamese dish, because it is very delicious, but not expensive. You can find it everywhere.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">LP</span></span>: What would you select as some of the most important French dish(es)? And why? And what are some of your favorite French dish(es) you like to enjoy yourself? And why?<br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #800000;">DC</span></span></span><span style="color: #800000;">: It is difficult for me to say which French dish is the most important. Each region has its own regional product and speciality. So it depends also which French region I am standing to answer the question what is my favorite French dish.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">LP</span></span>: How many years have you followed pho development, or developed pho yourself? And how have you seen pho changed during this time?<br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #800000;">DC</span></span></span><span style="color: #800000;">: [Since] my arrival in Vietnam, I have seen a lot of progress of Pho with better quality and more delicious [ingredients]. Moreover, each region now has developed its own Pho according [to] its own regional product. For instance, now we have Pho with prawn in the regions near the sea, Pho with vegetables in Dalat, and Pho with foie gras&#8230; [!]</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">LP</span></span>: What are some of the worst/unacceptable pho preparation techniques that you have encountered?<br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #800000;">DC</span></span></span><span style="color: #800000;">: Everyone has own technique but the most important thing to have a good taste of Pho is the broth. In my oppinion, the worst technique is adding the glutamate-Maker of food seasonings [monosodium glutamate] in the broth and I [would] never do it. I make my Pho with Vietnamese spices (Cardamom, star anis&#8230;) instead of glutamate.</span></p>
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Chef Corlou&#8217;s Pho With Salmon!</td>
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Chef Corlou&#8217;s Cooking Class &#8211; Making Banh Cuon</td>
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<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">LP</span></span>: What do you think is the difference between pho in North Vietnam versus pho in South Vietnam today, or are there differences any more? And if so which do you personally prefer?<br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #800000;">DC</span></span></span><span style="color: #800000;">: North of Vietnam is the origin, the cradle of Pho. Generally, the Pho of the northern [is] featured by the salty taste, and the South by sweet. And Pho in the South is paired with more herb[s] than in the North.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">LP</span></span>: Can you share your thoughts on pho development outside of Vietnam, specifically in Australia, Europe and in the U.S.?<br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #800000;">DC</span></span></span><span style="color: #800000;">: Pho is more and more developed not only in Vietnam. There are 2 Vietnamese dishes that I see developing strongly outside of Vietnam: Pho and “Bun Bo” – Fresh noodle with beef. I see in France, there is the “Pho complet” – The Pho with prawn, pork and beef&#8230;in a bowl. It is very good.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">LP</span></span>: Do you see a problem/issue with pho being developed within Vietnam and outside of Vietnam in parallel, at the same time? Will they diverge into something different?<br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #800000;">DC</span></span></span><span style="color: #800000;">: I don’t think the development of Pho is [in any] threat, we must leave Pho [to] progress, we can not put it in the museum. [Everyone] can have his way of cooking Pho [as] he [wishes]. However [even if] Pho has developed to other kinds like “pho cuon”, “pho chua” , “deep fried pho”&#8230; no one [should forget] the tradittional Pho.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">LP</span></span>: It is difficult for restaurateurs and business people not to jump in to franchise foods that are popular and if there exists a market for them. Can you share your views on franchised pho?<br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #800000;">DC</span></span></span><span style="color: #800000;">: As you can see, the “Pho 24” is very successful with the franchising. It is no problem if we can market the Pho, but it must follow a recipe. Also, it [still] exists [in] many small restaurant[s] in the street [which are] very popular. I really appreciate that.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">LP</span></span>: Do you have one and only one recipe for pho, or do you advocate several different recipes? What are your reasons for your preference(s)?<br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #800000;">DC</span></span></span><span style="color: #800000;">: I have a basic recipe for cooking Pho. When cooking the “Hanoian Pho”, I respect strictly to this recipe. However, I still create my own style of Pho based on the products [I find]. For example, I can change some spices in the broth but just a little to have a matching between the broth and the products [/ingredients].</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">LP</span></span>: Today pho is just fine the way it is for many people. Where do you see pho heading in the future?<br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #800000;">DC</span></span></span><span style="color: #800000;">: Pho is for everyone, [anytime] and easy to eat though it takes a long time to cook. In my opinion Pho is a potential [platform] to develop [further].</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">LP</span></span>: Given so many types of foods to choose from, how often do you enjoy a bowl of pho? And if you do, where would you go for pho?<br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #800000;">DC</span></span></span><span style="color: #800000;">: That’s right we have now many types of foods, but for me one bowl of Pho a week in a small traditional Hanoian Pho street is ideal.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">LP</span>:</span> Please share with our readers your current endeavors with La Verticale, OnThe6, and your Training Center.<br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">DC</span></span></span></span><span style="color: #800000;">: At this moment I want to concentrate on La Verticale and try to put the spices of Vietnam in the right place like they deserve. In Vietnam, we have many spices, we have 54 minorities with a lot of minority spices. The King people is majority but do not know how [to] use these spices. They use more herbs than spices. [Editor's note: King people are an ethnic group of Vietnam, comprising 86% of the population as of the 1999 census, originating from what is now northern Vietnam and southern China, according to </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_people" rel="nofollow" title="Wikipedia on Vietnamese People"  target="_blank"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="color: #800000;">Wikipedia on Vietnamese People</span></span></span></a><span style="color: #800000;">.]</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">I want to continue developing the new Vietnamese cuisine; also, to share my cuisine with people who [are fascinated by] Vietnamese cuisine. I [have] issued the collection “Five [seasonings]” with Vietnamese traditional recipes and modern recipes. The [training] center always has these available.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">LP</span></span>: Finally, they say a Frenchman must have wine with every meal. What would you choose that may go well with pho?</span><br />
<span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">D</span></span><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">C</span></span><span style="color: #800000;">: It is a interesting question! Normally, at the restaurant, it is difficult to have the matching wine with soup. But for the Pho, it is great to have a glass of Merlot red wine before eating but never beer! The red wine will put up the taste of Pho. However, do not drink while eating the Pho. After, the tea is good idea.</span></span></p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to send a big thank you to Chef Didier Corlou for this interview, and also to his assistant Ms.Luong for her help coordinating it. All photos courtesy Chef Didier Corlou.</p>
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		<title>The History and Evolution of Pho: A Hundred Years&#8217; Journey</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A fascinating and definitive discussion of history and evolution of Vietnamese pho. The history of pho spans over a hundred years, from unification of Vietnam under French rule in 1887, to North and South Vietnam separation in 1954, and the Fall of Saigon in 1975 and beyond.<p><a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/pho-opinion-editorial/history-and-evolution-of-vietnamese-pho/">The History and Evolution of Pho: A Hundred Years&#8217; Journey</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.lovingpho.com">Vietnamese Pho Noodles</a></p>
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<p><em><span style="color: #800000;">Updated 05-02-10</span></em>. <a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/pho-beef-noodles-2008.jpg" rel="shadowbox[post-653];player=img;"class="highslide" onclick="return vz.expand(this)" ><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-682" style="margin: 10px; border: 1px solid black;" title="Beef pho noodles. Photo courtesy Wikipedia.com." src="http://www.lovingpho.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/pho-beef-noodles-2008.jpg" alt="Beef pho noodles. Photo courtesy Wikipedia.com." width="240" height="180" /></a>Among all the Vietnamese dishes that came to the attention of the people in the western hemisphere, nothing else has received such tremendous acceptance as <strong>pho</strong>.  <strong><em>Pho</em></strong> is considered as the national dish of Vietnam, and it has captured the fascination of so many people in the west because of its deceptive simplicity and its complex flavors.  <strong>Pho</strong> is the perfect comfort food &#8211; warm, hearty and deliciously refreshing. In Vietnam it&#8217;s the common people&#8217;s food. It&#8217;s street food.</p>
<p><strong>Pho</strong> can also be seen as a mirror that reflects Vietnamese heritage and way of life.  A dish that is steeped in tradition, <em>pho</em> is closely tied to Vietnam that the history of pho can read as a parallel to the history of its country of origin itself in the last hundred years.  With the migration of Vietnamese across the globe after the Fall of Saigon in 1975, the national dish of Vietnam came to grace the tables of people of different heritages, thus leading to the colorful evolution of <strong>pho</strong> throughout the years. In this article I&#8217;ll discuss <strong>pho</strong>, its history and what makes <em><strong>pho</strong></em> many people&#8217;s favorite dish.</p>
<h2>What Is Pho?</h2>
<p>Of course, before I go into the <strong>history of pho</strong>, we should first tackle a more fundamental question about <strong>pho</strong>, namely: What in the world is <em>pho</em>?</p>
<p>Many readers know exactly what <em>pho</em> is. Articles on <strong>pho</strong> that you find around the Internet define the dish simply as Vietnamese noodle soup, traditionally made with beef or chicken broth that is flavored with various spices and topped with various herbs.  But this definition seems far too simplistic because it does not really capture the rich and intense essence of beef in the broth that can only be achieved by simmering marrow-rich beef bones on low heat for at least three hours.  It does not describe the complex layers of flavor created by the herbs and spices in <strong>pho</strong>.  It does not illustrate the many textures created by the chewy rice noodles, the tender beef slices and the crunchy bean sprouts in the soup.</p>
<p>At the very least, the description &#8220;noodle soup&#8221; may be a misnomer. Soup implies that the dish is a side dish, but in fact <strong>pho</strong> itself is the main course. Pho is a noodle dish, and not a soup dish. So if you catch the phrase &#8220;noodle soup&#8221; somewhere on this side then it&#8217;s only because I let my guard down for a moment there. Pho should be called &#8220;Vietnamese noodle&#8221; or &#8220;soup noodle&#8221; because it is a noodle dish.</p>
<p>You cannot expect two <strong>bowls of pho</strong> made in two separate kitchens to ever taste the same.  There are many recipes of pho existing out there, with each recipe somewhat different from each other. But those are only the published ones. There are countless others that are closely held by professional chefs running popular <strong>pho restaurants</strong>, and we&#8217;ll never know what they are. So techniques in cooking and preparing pho vary from chef to chef.  Variations can also depend on what type of pho is being prepared.  For instance, <strong>pho bac</strong>, which is pho from the northern regions of Vietnam, is made quite differently from how pho is prepared in southern Vietnam.</p>
<p>The history of pho stretches only a hundred years back in Vietnam&#8217;s recent past.  But just as those hundred years have shaped Vietnam into the country it is today, so do those hundred years have shaped the way <strong>pho</strong> has become.  Three events in Vietnamese history have marked the <strong>history of pho</strong>. They are</p>
<ol>
<li>The unification of Vietnam under French rule in 1887,</li>
<li>The splitting of the country into North and South Vietnam in 1954, and</li>
<li>The Fall of Saigon in 1975.</li>
</ol>
<blockquote><p>Here&#8217;s an article on &#8220;<a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/pho-opinion-editorial/vietnamese-pho/"title="What is Vietnamese pho?" >What is Vietnamese Pho: Think You Know? Think Again</a>,&#8221; which discusses what is and what is <span style="text-decoration: underline;">not</span> pho.</p></blockquote>
<h2><strong>The Murky Beginnings of Pho: a French Connection?</strong></h2>
<p>Despite the fact that <strong>pho</strong> is a reflection of the culture and history of Vietnam, no one really knows how <strong><em>pho</em></strong> came to be.  Restaurateur and author Mai Pham&#8217;s research on pho, as cited in <a href="http://vietworldkitchen.typepad.com/blog/2008/10/the-evolution-of-pho.html" rel="nofollow" title="Vietnamese culinary expert Andrea Nguyen's blog"  target="_blank">Vietnamese culinary expert Andrea Nguyen&#8217;s blog</a>, stated that there is nothing written about the early <strong>history of pho</strong>.  All there is left are oral traditions handed down by elders.  It is, however, agreed upon by many experts in Vietnamese cuisine, including Ms. Pham and Ms. Nguyen, that the <em>history of pho</em> began in Hanoi in northern Vietnam and that it started when the French colonized the country in the late 1880s.</p>
<p>In <a href="http://www.spicelines.com/2008/05/andrea_nguyen_talks_vietnamese.htm" rel="nofollow" title="SpiceLines interview on Andrea Nguyen"  target="_blank">the SpiceLines interview on Ms. Nguyen</a>, she said that before Vietnam was conquered by the French, the Vietnamese people did not slaughter cows for food.  Instead, they used these animals to till their rice fields and as beasts of burden.</p>
<p>The general theory held by most Vietnamese culinary experts is that the word &#8220;<strong>pho</strong>&#8221; is a corruption of the French &#8220;feu&#8221; or &#8220;fire.&#8221; Pho could be a Vietnamese adaptation of the French soup &#8220;pot au feu&#8221; or French beef stew, which the French brought to Vietnam when they came to rule the country. But let me take this theory further into something more concrete to possibly reflect facts. It is this: Vietnamese love to take foreign words and use them as our own, but with a Vietnamese accent. Thus &#8220;feu&#8221; became &#8220;Phở.&#8221; But there&#8217;s more. It&#8217;s always been a popular knowledge that the French, specifically a man named Jesuit Alexandre de Rhodes in the country between 1624 and 1644, helped convert Vietnamese written language from a variant of Chinese characters into the modern age with translations using the Latin alphabet system. So the French connection to <strong>pho</strong> and Vietnamese language is much more intimate than casual, and it&#8217;s not unthinkable that pho did come from feu. Read more on the <a href="http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Vietnamese_alphabet" rel="nofollow" title="Vietnamese alphabet"  target="_blank">Vietnamese alphabet</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Pot au feu&#8221; literally means &#8220;pot on the fire,&#8221; signifying the long hours required to create the soup. Just like with pho, cartilaginous, marrow-rich beef bones are used to make the broth of the pot au feu.  These bones are left to boil and simmer in water on low heat for at least three hours, and the scum and foam formed by excess grease from the bone marrow are skimmed and discarded.</p>
<p>Another similarity that pot au feu shares with pho is the fact that ginger and onions are also roasted in an open flame before they are added to flavor the broth. Vegetables like carrots and turnips are used to top pot au feu. In pho, these vegetables are replaced by bean sprouts and herbs, with a little lime juice added in for taste.</p>
<h2>Pho Bac: Pho of the North</h2>
<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-681" style="margin: 10px; border: 1px solid black;" title="Street vendor pho ga in Ha Noi. Photo courtesy Wikipedia.com" src="http://www.lovingpho.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/street_vendor_pho_ga_hanoi.jpg" alt="Street vendor pho ga in Ha Noi. Photo courtesy Wikipedia.com" width="225" height="300" />Another theory that Vietnamese cuisine experts agree on is that the birthplace of pho is northern Vietnam, near Hanoi. Given the theory that <strong>pho</strong> is a Vietnamese adaptation of the French pot au feu, it is not surprising to think that <strong>pho</strong> originated from the north.</p>
<p>Hanoi has always been the center of political power in colonial Vietnam, with only a few short interruptions.  The city has always been the seat of Vietnamese kings and emperors since 1010, except during the rule of the Nguyen dynasty, when the capital was moved to Hue.  When the French conquered Vietnam and established the colony they called the French Indochina, they made Hanoi their capital city.</p>
<p>The French brought pot au feu to Vietnam and introduced the idea of slaughtering cows for food to the Vietnamese of the north.  The northern regions of Vietnam are not as rich as those in the south, and food scarcity is not a stranger to a northern Vietnamese household.  The northern Vietnamese get their food where they can find it, and they learned to take the beef parts and bones that their French conquerors did not want for their table.  It is widely believed that this is how <strong>pho</strong> of the north, called <strong>pho bac</strong>, came to be.</p>
<p><strong>Pho bac</strong> has an intense and delicate flavor that is entirely different from pho nam, which is pho of the south.  The focus of <em>pho bac</em> is on the taste of its clear and simple broth.  The star anise and other spices commonly used in <em>pho</em> serve as subtle undertones of flavor rather than complex layers.  The main ingredients in pho bac are the rice noodles and the thinly sliced rare beef cooked quickly in the hot broth.  You would not find a bowl of pho bac topped with the popular herbs and garnishing found in pho nam or in pho outside of Vietnam.</p>
<p>Even today, northern Vietnamese and <strong>pho</strong> purists consider <strong>pho bac</strong> the true pho.  It is not uncommon to find a person from northern Vietnam or a pho purist to turn away from lavish preparations of pho nam or from pho that is not made from beef stock.  Some of them find such preparations shocking and even disgusting.</p>
<h2>Pho Nam: Pho of the South</h2>
<p>French rule did not last in Vietnam.  The Second World War saw the country known as French Indochina fall under Japanese occupation, although the new Japanese rulers retained their French administrators.  But France was not to regain her full political influence on Vietnam.  After the war, a series of events led to the splitting of Vietnam into North Vietnam and South Vietnam in 1954.  North Vietnam, which is Communist country, kept Hanoi as its capital.  South Vietnam is a democracy centered on Saigon (or Sài Gòn).</p>
<p>Thousands of North Vietnamese fled the Communist rule, and escaped across the border to South Vietnam.  These refugee families took with them their cherished <strong>pho recipes</strong> and introduced pho to their brethren in the south.  Here, <strong>pho</strong> is to make a turn that eventually shocked pho purists from the north.</p>
<p>Unlike in North Vietnam, food is rich and abundant in South Vietnam.  Herbs and other ingredients are used liberally.  The Vietnamese of the south put their taste for the lavish on the frugal <strong>pho bac</strong> to create the classic <strong>pho nam</strong>.  They put more spices in their <strong>pho</strong> than their northern counterparts. They experimented with other beef parts, and even used other ingredients such as chicken and tripe.  They added bean sprouts and herb garnishing as topping on the soup.  They were also very liberal about the use of fish sauce and hoisin sauce to flavor their <em><strong>pho</strong></em>.</p>
<p><strong>Pho</strong> flourished, and due to its versatility and popularity, Vietnamese eat <strong>pho</strong> everyday, at any time during the day. Pho vendors do business everywhere, from pushcarts to neighborhood street stalls, from pho restaurants to elegant bistros. But most importantly, pho is the food of the working people.</p>
<h2>The Fall of Saigon and the Evolution of Pho</h2>
<p>Conflicts between North and South Vietnam continued long after 1954.  These conflicts were fueled by the Communist superpowers, namely the Soviet Union and Communist China, who gave their support to Communist North.  Into the fray also came the Americans, who favored the Democratic South Vietnam.  The conflicts became known as the Vietnam War, which raged full scale from 1963 to 1973, and ended in the Fall of Saigon in 1975.</p>
<p>The Fall of Saigon saw masses of Vietnamese people flee for their lives to various corners of the world.  Many of them were accepted to the United States mainland in the few years immediately after 1975, while many others tried to escape in rickety boats as &#8220;boat people&#8221; for 15 or more years to come.  These Vietnamese boat people created colonies in neighboring countries such as Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines, although some even reached as far as Australia and even Europe.</p>
<p>Among the treasures that Vietnamese refugees brought with them from their homeland were their cherished <strong>pho recipes</strong>.  Soon enough, restaurants serving <strong>pho</strong> emerged in the communities these Vietnamese migrants established in their country of exile, and these restaurants introduced <em><strong>pho</strong></em> to their non-Vietnamese neighbors.</p>
<p>As time went on, an <em>evolution of pho</em> was seen outside of Vietnam.  Although the basic ingredients were retained, <em>pho recipes</em> were adapted to suit whatever ingredients were available locally.  Non-Vietnamese who attempted to create their own version of pho also used techniques and ingredients that are far away from the traditional methods of creating <strong>pho</strong>.</p>
<p>One cannot stop evolution. Personally, I admire the creativity of these chefs, but if you want good pho, then go where the crowd eats. Chances are they eat the more authentic kind.</p>
<h2>Vietnamese Pho Today</h2>
<p>Outside of Vietnam many Vietnamese culinary experts have taken upon themselves to protect <strong>pho</strong> and help it retain its traditional identity. <strong>Pho</strong> has nonetheless taken on an adaptive nature.  Many other versions of <strong>pho</strong> have emerged outside of Vietnam that contain seafood and pork and are called &#8220;pho&#8221; by their creators. Such dishes actually already exist in Vietnamese cuisine, being called &#8220;hu tieu&#8221; with different local variations.</p>
<p>For the pho connoisseurs, these so-called seafood or pork <strong>pho recipes</strong> cannot be considered <strong>pho</strong> in the strict traditional sense. In any case, the fact remains that <strong><em>pho</em></strong> has captured the fascination of people from all over the world because of the appeal of its distinct and layered flavors. There&#8217;s no question you&#8217;ll find great tasting and authentic pho in many of Vietnam&#8217;s local pho shops. But wherever you are in the world &#8211; whether in the United States, in Europe, in Australia or even in other Asian countries &#8211; you are sure to find a Vietnamese restaurant that serves pho as well, the authentic kind.</p>
<blockquote><p>Also see &#8220;<a href="http://www.lovingpho.com/pho-opinion-editorial/pho-sweeping-usa-north-america-since-1975/"title="Pho in the U.S.: Sweeping North America Since 1975" >Pho in the U.S.: Sweeping North America Since 1975</a>.&#8221; For an excellent recount of the Vietnamese experience and history of Little Saigon, see &#8220;<a href="http://wanderingchopsticks.blogspot.com/2007/02/little-saigon.html" rel="nofollow" title="Little Saigon, Orange County - California"  target="_blank">Little Saigon, Orange County &#8211; California</a>&#8221; by Wandering Chopsticks.</p></blockquote>
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